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Sam: How's the
tour going so far?
Phil: "Real good, reeeal good"
Sam: Do you guys have any more
plans after this tour? Maybe head over to Europe?
Phil: "No, no I'm going to avoid
Europe for as long as possible...until...I guess
until all the soldiers get sent home and shit and all
the airlines are chilled out a little. That whole
thing is a fuckin' headache and I don't feel like
strip searching for nobody. We're scheduled throughout
December anyway, and then we've got January off and
we're gonna see what, probably the best thing is.
I honestly would like to go on a bigger tour, but
I just don't see...I can't even imagine what bands
would have the balls to take us on tour, I really
Sam: That is a bit of a problem
Phil: "A bigtime problem, and if
that doesn't happen then, we'll either do the next
record, or another one of our tours. And that's all
we've been doing man, just keeping shit our way and
it's worked out beautiful I think."
Sam: Is this the only project
you see yourself concentrating on in the next few
Phil: "For awhile yeah, I mean
I'll fuck around with music here and there, but as
far as putting anything else out, I'm not doing it.
I'm not going to confuse anybody. I want people to
realize and know that they can basically just count
on me, especially these days when heavy metal is
a real curious subject. It's like, what they are
calling heavy metal is not what I grew up with."
Sam: Not at all...
Phil: "You know, it's awful,
you know so, the fact that we packed up Anal Cunt
for tonight, yeah, it's always a favorite, and fuckin'
Morbid Angel, that's always a favorite. And we give
Dez' band a fuckin' chance, you know?"
Sam: How long have you known
those guys (AC)?
Phil: "I've known Seth probably
since about '94"
Sam: I know everbody has been
asking you about Down and everything and you're
probably sick of it, but I was just wondering if the
acoustic album and the DVD are ever coming out?
Phil: "As long as we're entrapped
with Elektra records, which we seem to be, I'm not
doing another fucking thing for Elektra records
unless they...they'd have to promise me...alot of
money, real fuckin' quick, and alot of promotion.
And their gonna have to do better than promises, I
want it fuckin' so to the fuckin' T, contracted to
where they don't have the upper hand on the band.
As they have in the past...I ain't doing nothing
for Elektra records 'cause they ain't done nothin'
for me but fuckin' waste my time. Aside from the
other band which I ain't ever doin' nothin' with
again...and I don't want to talk about it."
Sam: I figured that...any
chance Elektra might release you guys so you could..
Phil: "You know, it's like...
it makes me really wonder what kind of ego...and what
the fuck did I do to fuckin' Elektra Records except
deliver a platinum fuckin' record every fucking time.
For them to hang on to my fuckin' career and all this
fucking shit you know. Whatever, you know, play
'who's got the bigger dick' and, everybody knows
I've got the bigger dick, you know, it's time
for them to fuckin' chill out and let bygones be
bygones. Let me fuckin' go on with my fuckin' life
and I won't ever fuckin' bug you again."
Sam: How's the label been so
far with Superjoint?
Phil: "Look man, I've gotta give
all credit to Sanctuary because they are doing what
they said they're going to do to a certain point.
And they are the only ones that are fuckin' doin' it.
Yet, I think they are understaffed, they could be
bigger hitters. I don't think they know necessarily
how to break a band, they know what to do with a band
after their careers are over and shit like that,
they make sure the product comes out. But that is not
the fuckin' issue with Superjoint, I want Superjoint
Ritual to be everyfuckin'thing that people maybe
missed in Pantera. Because I knew that, you know,
Pantera, not to talk about 'um, because I'm not
going to, but if it weren't fuckin' for me, in that
fuckin' band...what I fuckin' taught those
motherfuckers. You know, you'll see on their new
shit, the singer is gonna come out and imitate
me, the best he possibly can. He's gonna have to
end up singing songs that I wrote when I was fuckin'
20 years old, and their gonna sound like Diamond
Darrell and Vinny Paul's killer sound, you know,
they're not doing anything different. Whereas with
Superjoint, yeah, we're doing something fuckin'
different. I'm not saying it's never been done
before, but what I'm saying is, is it's definately
a genre of music that changed my life forever. This
is where I've wanted to be for so long, musically,
you know, 'cause we've been writing Superjoint shit
for oh god, since '93, and you know, long time coming
man. I mean to fuckin' be with them, with this
fuckin' band for damn sure."
Sam: It's like you guys have
brought back all the old school hardcore shit that's
missing in heavy music right now
Phil: "Fuckin' right man...
it's true though, it's the fucking truth, give
me a pedestal, I'll fuckin' preach"
Sam: Do you know if any of the
material you did with Tapeworm will ever surface?
Phil: "See, I've gotta let you
know, straight up, that that...#1 never was a
project, so to speak, like, something that we would
sit there and think about. Danny from NIN was a cool
motherfucker, and he lived in New Orleans and he'd
call me up and say 'man what are you doin'?' and I'd
say 'nothin' today, something tomorrow' and he'd
say 'well, you wanna sing over this trippy, freaked
out shit that you don't ever do?' so, you know I
recorded 2 or 3 songs with him and that's the last
I've every heard of it, so I don't know if it's
ever coming out or not. It was interesting, you know,
it was different than anything I've ever done, but
I wouldn't call it commercial. It's different from
what I'd do 'cause you know the dudes in NIN use
so many different types of sounds and all the synth
programs and all kind of shit. It's like 'whaat'?
just give me a guitar and I'll plug it in, you know?
I don't know half of what they're doing, but whatever."
Sam: I know you write alot of
riffs on some of the albums, are we ever going to
see you playing guitar onstage?
Phil: "I do it every now and
again, and I'll fuckin' grab a guitar and play a song,
but as far as me playing onstage, I can't...I don't
think I've got the..I haven't practiced singing and
playing, you know. So I'm much more at ease with just
the microphone really"