Coale: How's the tour been going so far?
Barney: "It's been pretty straight
ahead for us. We're the second band on the bill, so we
only do about 50 minutes. So, even though there has
been alot of dates, it's been sort of a speedy passage
SMC: Are you mixing up the set
more, as far as older and new material, any covers?
Barney: "We've pretty much been
doing the same set every single night, we sort of did
it at first mixing it up a lil but we found something
that was pretty good. We do two covers, Cryptic
Slaughter and Agnostic Front". (Interviewer's note: at
this show they did three covers throwing out Dead
Kennedy's 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off' as well.)
SMC: How far along are you in
the record process?
Barney: "We're done, finished.
It's ready to go, it's just going through the process
of artwork and mastering."
SMC: I know Jamey Jasta did a
track with you, how did that come out and did anyone
else do any tracks?
Barney: "Jeff from Carcass did
some stuff and Jello Biafra as well. It was a good
SMC: I read that you guys go
really quickly thru the writing and recording process,
how fast does it all come together?
Barney: "That's the thing though,
we do. We don't fuck about, cause when you've been
for many years on a budget, you can't afford to
messing around. So you go get it done."
SMC: Yeah, how is Century Media
treating you guys?
Barney: "Pretty good up to now,
a few things need to be ironed out, can't complain.
That stuffs always gonna happen, there's gonna be
small issues here and there and such. Pretty happy
SMC: Last time we talked it was
February '02, and the US was planning on going into
Iraq, how's your war on the take now?
Barney: "Well it's perfect and
completely turned out to be a sham. I'm not suggesting
I'm some kind of prophet or whatever, but I kinda
predicted this before it all happened. I mean it
really made me laugh how they kept reinventing the
reasons why they went in there. So they keep inventing
their own language and till they reach a point
and there's no argument anymore. As you can see Iraq
at the moment has killed more Iraqis then American
troops, British troops or what have you and it's
totally unnecessary. It's such a fucking mess and
they keep going out there and saying that it isn't,
but it fucking is. I think they kinda went in there
thinking they could kinda stomp in and people would
sit back and accept it and obviously people haven't.
Which is why you see so much brutal stuff. And again
what was the real reason we went in there? People keep
saying this war is for oil, no no no no. Why not, you
can see it. What other reason was there at this point?
Saddam Hussein, the only reason he was put there in
the first place was because the American government
put him there. Go figure."
SMC: How much water does Tony
Blair hold in England these days?
Barney: "Well, he's struggling,
as you probably gather England was very much against
the war, very opposed to it. 90% of people in England
were opposed to the war. With that in mind there has
been a few other issues that have bothered people,
it's really testing him. Coming from a party that was
always coming from the left, I guess the Labor Party
is the Democratic party of England, although it's
moved a lot more to the right now, then traditional
labor members. I was a Labor member and we're
completely just dissatisfied with the way he's lead
the party in that perspective. So, there's been a lot
of pressure on him to be succeeded by someone else,
maybe someone else in the party who won't be a
subservient to Bush. So, I think that's what people
are hoping for. Whether that will happen I don't know
because Blair is very pleasant, he's got a lot of
supporters within the Labor party."
SMC: How do you feel about the
whole election that just happened here and about how
voters turned out voting saying they wanted to vote
for "Security and Moral Values".
Barney: "Probably sadly inevitable
really. I wish people would actually realize the
implications of voting for Bush, working people
especially. What's gonna happen now, I would believe
they're gonna lose their health care and it's gonna
get even worse at the basic level, more jobs are
gonna be lost. See this argument doesn't hold weight
with me, it's about people, before moral values or
any type of Christian faith. When are people gonna
realize it's about people, not the fucking bible,
that's my argument anyways and it's kinda scary the
Republican party systematically going after same sex
situation as regular society and that to me is like
1930 Germany. Sorry, but to think that Bush is a part
of Civilized society, you can't accept people for
what they are. Then you get chastised for being gay,
and people accept it. Bush is always talking about
the civilized society, that's not fucking civilized,
not here and anywhere inbetween it."
SMC: Since you guys are the
leaders of your genre, do you see any bands that are
out right now, who you feel have what it takes to
match the longevity of your own career?
Barney: "Nasum, I think they're
the next or closest kinda band and there are other
obscure bands I heard this band called Das Oath,
they're like traditional hardcore and with a Killing
Joke kinda edge to them and really good productions,
but really obscure, very small label at the moment
but they're good."
SMC: How do you see the music
industry these days?
Barney: "Music industry is
always gonna be messed up, I don't think you could
bring in a better or worse argument, there's always
gonna be fucking someone else or someone over."
SMC: What about the new trends
going on with hardcore?
Barney: "Do you mean metalcore?
Musically hardcore is the most relevant, musical
logic evolved, but I prefer the stuff from the 80's
really. The 80's, and I don't really personally feel
that it come close as to those times, when you got
bands like Discharge and Minor Threat. I really don't
see anything that comes close to it, but then again
people are gonna chose their path and I'm not gonna
criticise them for doing that. I mean something that
comes up with a class is always gonna be called a
trend, whether it stands the test of time is when it
ceases to be a trend."
SMC: Out of that genre itself
what band do you see being able to do that?
Barney: "I think a band like
Hatebreed is doing pretty good for themselves and
I've seen Jamey, he's a good guy. He gets shit on,
because obviously he spreads his wings quite a lot
and I've read quite a lot of crap about him. But at
the end of the day I know him and I know he's a
really good person and his heart is in the right
place. He struggled thru the years when no one cared
and no one was into that type of thing, but now
obviously his band is pretty big, certainly a lot
bigger then Napalm."
SMC: With him doing a track on
the album, do you see a tour in the future?
Barney: "Yeah, I'd do it."
SMC: Are you guys planning on
coming back around for Metalfest this year?
Barney: "There is talk of us
coming then, but we gotta kinda see how next year
is gonna pan out. So maybe."
SMC: How many more years do you
see yourselves doing this?
Barney: "Who knows, life is
governed by circumstances and situations and certain
situations change, so who knows."
Top 4 Albums....(we changed the subject and forget
to pick a fifth)
1. Motorhead "Ace of Spades"
2. Discharge "WHY 12inch"
3. Repulsion "Horrified"
4. Siege "Drop Dead"